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nohsreg2000 · October 2nd, 2003, 12:22 PM

No matter our endevours in life wether they be large or small, noble or tainted,heroic or cowardly the result is allways the same at the end of our walks in this life .
with out geting in a religious discution, you have to beleive in ultimate justice. that universal sense of fair play that all peoples seem to harbour deep within their souls. we are never really able to put our finger on it and many have mechanisms that help. If all life comes from a single increadable point wether you see it as God or evolution that makes us uniquely binded as one living soul. This is why in every deep recess of our most inner selfs ultimatly burns the same questions, fears, loves, and instincts.

I Will tell you a little story about the circle of life as seen from one point of veiw. It is just that, a story but it addresses the point of universal justice and our lack of perspective to see the larger picture based on a particular vantage point.

(this is a Jewish story It comes from an ancient text know as the TALMUD BAVLI or roughly the BOOK OF BABALON.)I am of course giving you the readers digest version.

A very holy Rabbi who had lived a long a blameless life passed away and stood before the throne of the almighty. The almighty Called on within the heavenly realm to bring tetamony against this man if they could. Only one voice was raised. It was that of duck.
This duck gave an accounting of how he had been wronged by this man in life.
The almighty agreed that in all the Rabbis life this was his his only sin. It was decreed that he must return to earth and commit one good deed to pay for his one sin. The Rabbi asked the almighty why he must return to earth and live as a man again instead of entering into the glory of heaven for only one infraction when many had entered heaven with many more sins than he on their heads. The almighty explained to him that a soul must be refined to obtain a higher level and a white sheet with many stains does not change greatly with additional stains but a sheet with but one stain is a beacon to its imperfection.
The Rabbi humbly accepted the devine decree and was again born into this world.

(cliff note a jew is not responsible for his/her actions intil the age of 13(Bar Mitzva) so your "Karma clock" for lack of a better term does not start running untill then.)

In a small village 13 years later on the day of the town butchers sons Bar Mitzva All the towns people were gatherd for the celebration. At the dinner that night the son of the butcher found a mans ring on the ground. The young man was now face with his first opportunity in his life to choose the path of good or evil and have it as a mark on his soul. He returned the ring to its owner and with little fanfare recieved a thanks and the dinner continued. The young man began to violently choke on a chicken bone and all the townspeople could do nothing to save him and to the horror of everyone the boy died on this the most joyus of days.
The townfolk searched their souls and console each other while mourning for many weeks after the tradjic events. They found a little comfort in faith, religion and friendship. But each person knew deep within himself that although awfull as it was, there had to be a reason. Something on a larger scale that could put order to the terrable event.

In the host of Heaven the soul of a holy man having been purified by a good deed was elevetaed to bliss.

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. Again this is the short version but I have allways found this story to help in times of loss. It gives you the understanding that perspective is always limited, and that justice is the ultimate goal of the cosmos.

October 2nd, 2003, 12:22 PM	#7
nohsreg2000 Out to lunch nohsreg2000 is offline Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 10,462 Rep Power: 18	Re: Death............................................. .... No matter our endevours in life wether they be large or small, noble or tainted,heroic or cowardly the result is allways the same at the end of our walks in this life . with out geting in a religious discution, you have to beleive in ultimate justice. that universal sense of fair play that all peoples seem to harbour deep within their souls. we are never really able to put our finger on it and many have mechanisms that help. If all life comes from a single increadable point wether you see it as God or evolution that makes us uniquely binded as one living soul. This is why in every deep recess of our most inner selfs ultimatly burns the same questions, fears, loves, and instincts. I Will tell you a little story about the circle of life as seen from one point of veiw. It is just that, a story but it addresses the point of universal justice and our lack of perspective to see the larger picture based on a particular vantage point. (this is a Jewish story It comes from an ancient text know as the TALMUD BAVLI or roughly the BOOK OF BABALON.)I am of course giving you the readers digest version. A very holy Rabbi who had lived a long a blameless life passed away and stood before the throne of the almighty. The almighty Called on within the heavenly realm to bring tetamony against this man if they could. Only one voice was raised. It was that of duck. This duck gave an accounting of how he had been wronged by this man in life. The almighty agreed that in all the Rabbis life this was his his only sin. It was decreed that he must return to earth and commit one good deed to pay for his one sin. The Rabbi asked the almighty why he must return to earth and live as a man again instead of entering into the glory of heaven for only one infraction when many had entered heaven with many more sins than he on their heads. The almighty explained to him that a soul must be refined to obtain a higher level and a white sheet with many stains does not change greatly with additional stains but a sheet with but one stain is a beacon to its imperfection. The Rabbi humbly accepted the devine decree and was again born into this world. (cliff note a jew is not responsible for his/her actions intil the age of 13(Bar Mitzva) so your "Karma clock" for lack of a better term does not start running untill then.) In a small village 13 years later on the day of the town butchers sons Bar Mitzva All the towns people were gatherd for the celebration. At the dinner that night the son of the butcher found a mans ring on the ground. The young man was now face with his first opportunity in his life to choose the path of good or evil and have it as a mark on his soul. He returned the ring to its owner and with little fanfare recieved a thanks and the dinner continued. The young man began to violently choke on a chicken bone and all the townspeople could do nothing to save him and to the horror of everyone the boy died on this the most joyus of days. The townfolk searched their souls and console each other while mourning for many weeks after the tradjic events. They found a little comfort in faith, religion and friendship. But each person knew deep within himself that although awfull as it was, there had to be a reason. Something on a larger scale that could put order to the terrable event. In the host of Heaven the soul of a holy man having been purified by a good deed was elevetaed to bliss. . . . . Again this is the short version but I have allways found this story to help in times of loss. It gives you the understanding that perspective is always limited, and that justice is the ultimate goal of the cosmos.